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Apple M4 Max vs Apple M5 Max for local AI

Both fit the same models we track, up to gpt-oss 120B. The Apple M4 Max generates about 19% faster on any model both can run, because it has 546 GB/s of memory bandwidth to the Apple M5 Max's 460 GB/s.

The numbers that matter

Memory and bandwidth

Memory decides which models fit. Bandwidth decides how fast they generate, because every token reads the model's active weights once.

Apple M4 MaxApple M5 Max
Memory36 or 48 or 64 or 128 GB unified memory36 or 48 or 64 or 128 GB unified memory
Usable for modelsAbout 96 GB of 128 GBAbout 96 GB of 128 GB
Bandwidth546 GB/s460 GB/s
Biggest model that fitsgpt-oss 120Bgpt-oss 120B
Best everyday pickgpt-oss 120B, ~66 tok/sgpt-oss 120B, ~56 tok/s
Model by model

Every model, side by side

Estimated generation speed at the largest memory size each was sold in (128 GB and 128 GB).

ModelApple M4 MaxApple M5 Max
Qwen3 4B
About 4 GB
~120 tok/s Runs great~100 tok/s Runs great
Qwen3 8B
About 7 GB
~58 tok/s Runs great~49 tok/s Runs great
Gemma 3 12B
About 10 GB
~37 tok/s Runs great~31 tok/s Runs great
Qwen3 14B
About 11 GB
~32 tok/s Runs great~27 tok/s Usable
gpt-oss 20B
About 16 GB
~96 tok/s Runs great~81 tok/s Runs great
Gemma 3 27B
About 19 GB
~18 tok/s Usable~15 tok/s Usable
Qwen3 30B-A3B
About 21 GB
~96 tok/s Runs great~81 tok/s Runs great
Qwen3 32B
About 22 GB
~15 tok/s Usable~13 tok/s Usable
Llama 3.3 70B
About 45 GB
~7 tok/s Slow~6 tok/s Slow
gpt-oss 120B
About 67 GB
~66 tok/s Runs great~56 tok/s Runs great
Qwen3 235B-A22B
About 144 GB
Needs 144 GBNeeds 144 GB
DeepSeek R1 671B
About 406 GB
Needs 406 GBNeeds 406 GB
Which should you get?

The Apple M4 Max, for speed. They fit the same models. Price matters as much as either number: check used prices on the builds page, where every parts list has a measured or estimated speed.

How we estimate

Both columns use the same formula: memory bandwidth divided by the weights read per token, calibrated on our own rack, with Ollama's default 4-bit sizes. Real results are usually within about a third. Measured either one? Send us the number.

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